Dear Osmocom community,
we're happy to announce the next incarnation of RetroNetCall[1],
the retronetworking oriented spin-off of OsmoDevCall[2].
when:
Jul 5, 2023 at 20:00 CEST
where:
https://osmocom.org/RetroNetCall
This time, @casandro will be presenting on
Teletext: A digital medium transcending a factor of 10e6 in technical progress
NOTE: Teletext (covered here) is the service transporting textual
information alongside TV broadcast signals. It is not to be confused
with the completely unrelated Teletex (subject of previous
RetroNetCall)!
This meeting will have the following schedule:
20:00 meet + greet
20:10 presentation as outlined above
21:00 unstructured supplementary social event [3]
Attendance is free of charge and open to anyone with an interest
in Osmocom or open source cellular technologies.
More information about RetroNetCall, including the schedule
for further upcoming events can be found at
https://osmocom.org/projects/retronetworking/wiki/RetroNetCall
Looking forward to meeting you soon!
Best regards,
Harald
[1] https://osmocom.org/projects/retronetworking/wiki/RetroNetCall
[2] https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-dev-con/wiki/OsmoDevCall
[3] this is how we started to call the "unstructured" part of osmocom
developer conferences in the past, basically where anyone can talk about
anything, no formal schedule or structure.
--
- Harald Welte <laforge(a)osmocom.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
Dear Osmocom community,
we're happy to announce the next incarnation of RetroNetCall[1],
the retronetworking oriented spin-off of OsmoDevCall[2].
when:
Jun 7, 2023 at 20:00 CEST
where:
https://osmocom.org/RetroNetCall
This time, @laforge will be presenting on
Teletex: The brief abandoned step between Telex and Telefax
Everyone knows Telefax, and most people will have heard what Telex was.
Few people are aware of the designated intermediate system Teletex. It
was used like a "remote type writer", where formatted pages of
(monospaced) text could be entered, transmitted and printed by a remote
typewriter
This meeting will have the following schedule:
20:00 meet + greet
20:10 presentation as outlined above
21:00 unstructured supplementary social event [3]
Attendance is free of charge and open to anyone with an interest
in Osmocom or open source cellular technologies.
More information about RetroNetCall, including the schedule
for further upcoming events can be found at
https://osmocom.org/projects/retronetworking/wiki/RetroNetCall
Looking forward to meeting you soon!
Best regards,
Harald
[1] https://osmocom.org/projects/retronetworking/wiki/RetroNetCall
[2] https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-dev-con/wiki/OsmoDevCall
[3] this is how we started to call the "unstructured" part of osmocom
developer conferences in the past, basically where anyone can talk about
anything, no formal schedule or structure.
--
- Harald Welte <laforge(a)osmocom.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
Dear Osmocom community,
we're happy to announce the next incarnation of RetroNetCall[1],
the retronetworking oriented spin-off of OsmoDevCall[2].
when:
May 4, 2023 at 20:00 CEST
where:
https://osmocom.org/RetroNetCall
This time, @tnt will be presenting on
E1: The analog side (part 1)
Many of us know E1 circuits from ISDN or GSM A-bis, and are familiar
with the digital side of them. Building a related E1 interface mostly
uses [still] available LIU (Line Interface Unit) integrated circuits.
@tnt took it one step further and started to think along the lines of
what if I had to do my own LIU analog circuit design?
This meeting will have the following schedule:
20:00 meet + greet
20:10 presentation as outlined above
21:00 unstructured supplementary social event [3]
Attendance is free of charge and open to anyone with an interest
in Osmocom or open source cellular technologies.
More information about RetroNetCall, including the schedule
for further upcoming events can be found at
https://osmocom.org/projects/retronetworking/wiki/RetroNetCall
Looking forward to meeting you soon!
Best regards,
Harald
[1] https://osmocom.org/projects/retronetworking/wiki/RetroNetCall
[2] https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-dev-con/wiki/OsmoDevCall
[3] this is how we started to call the "unstructured" part of osmocom
developer conferences in the past, basically where anyone can talk about
anything, no formal schedule or structure.
--
- Harald Welte <laforge(a)osmocom.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
Dear Osmocom community,
we're happy to announce the next incarnation of RetroNetCall[1],
the retronetworking oriented spin-off of OsmoDevCall[2].
when:
March 1, 2023 at 20:00 CET
where:
https://osmocom.org/RetroNetCall
This time, @laforge will be presenting on
Introduction to the X.21 Interface
Topics include (not limited to):
* electrical signals
* signal timing
* call signaling
This meeting will have the following schedule:
20:00 meet + greet
20:10 presentation as outlined above
21:00 unstructured supplementary social event [3]
Attendance is free of charge and open to anyone with an interest
in Osmocom or open source cellular technologies.
More information about RetroNetCall, including the schedule
for further upcoming events can be found at
https://osmocom.org/projects/retronetworking/wiki/RetroNetCall
Looking forward to meeting you soon!
Best regards,
Harald
[1] https://osmocom.org/projects/retronetworking/wiki/RetroNetCall
[2] https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-dev-con/wiki/OsmoDevCall
[3] this is how we started to call the "unstructured" part of osmocom
developer conferences in the past, basically where anyone can talk about
anything, no formal schedule or structure.
--
- Harald Welte <laforge(a)osmocom.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
============================================================================
"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
Dear Osmocom community,
we're happy to announce the next incarnation of RetroNetCall[1],
the retronetworking oriented spin-off of OsmoDevCall[2].
when:
December 7, 2022 at 20:00 CET
where:
https://osmocom.org/RetroNetCall
This time, @laforge will be presenting on
ISDN B-channel protocols: V.110, V.120, X.75, H.221
Topics include (not limited to):
* description of the respective protocol
* look at a protocol trace
* status of open source implementations
This meeting will have the following schedule:
20:00 meet + greet
20:10 presentation as outlined above
21:00 unstructured supplementary social event [3]
Attendance is free of charge and open to anyone with an interest
in Osmocom or open source cellular technologies.
More information about OsmoDevCall, including the schedule
for further upcoming events can be found at
https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-dev-con/wiki/OsmoDevCall
Looking forward to meeting you soon!
Best regards,
Harald
[1] https://osmocom.org/projects/retronetworking/wiki/RetroNetCall
[2] https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-dev-con/wiki/OsmoDevCall
[3] this is how we started to call the "unstructured" part of osmocom
developer conferences in the past, basically where anyone can talk about
anything, no formal schedule or structure.
--
- Harald Welte <laforge(a)osmocom.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
[please follow-up-to openbsc(a)lists.osmocom.org so we don't cross-post
all related mails]
Dear Osmocom community,
OsmoDevCall used to be rather successful for quite some time in recent years,
but recently has been suffering quite a bit due to insufficient people
volunteering to present. Big thanks to all who did! Interestingly,
there's no shortage of ideas of topics at
https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-dev-con/wiki/OsmoDevCall - but then
many of the potential speakers did not have the interest or time to
follow-up.
Most recently, the last few instances have not been taking place due to a lack
of volunteers during my holidays.
Last, but not least, while during COVID lockdown winter "friday night
8pm" was a good idea, this of course is more difficult during the
summer, when people are more likely want to go out the weekend.
So, to summarize, let me ask some questions:
* would you be interested in OsmoDevCall continuing?
* which day/time/timezone would you prefer ?
* would you be able and willing to volunteer to give at talk within the
next 3 or so months?
Any other suggestions for or around OsmoDevCall are of course also welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Harald
--
- Harald Welte <laforge(a)gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
Hi all,
Vintage Computing Festival Berlin 2022 is scheduled for October 8+9, 2022
It would be great to put together an exhibit there, re-using the small
rack based setup that was at the 2019 CCC congress (Auerswald PBX,
Freeswitch, Portmaster3) as well as a number of modems / ISDN-TA etc. to
show BBS dial-up and the like.
I have all the equipment and can work on the preparation/setup, but I
think it would be very helpful if this was not a one-man show but if
somebody would be around to help particularly on-site when there are
visitors looking for demo, explanation, help, ...
Registration deadline is September 7, as indicated at
https://vcfb.de/2022/call_for_participation.htm
Before we go into what we could/should demo, I would like to get a
feeling if anyone is interested in helping out.
Related redmine issue: https://osmocom.org/issues/5590
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- Harald Welte <laforge(a)gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
Dear Osmocom community,
It's my pleasure to announce the next OsmoDevCall (delayed by one
week from our usual spot) on
April 29, 2022 at 20:00 CEST
at
https://meeting5.franken.de/b/har-xbc-bsx-wvs
In this edition, I will be presenting on the state of the OCTOI
(Osmocom TDMoIP) Retronetworking activities
(see https://osmocom.org/projects/octoi/wiki)
This meeting will have the following schedule:
20:00 meet + greet
20:10 presentation as outlined above
21:00 unstructured supplementary social event [*]
Attendance is free of charge and open to anyone with an interest
in Osmocom or open source cellular technologies.
More information about OsmoDevCall, including the schedule
for further upcoming events can be found at
https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-dev-con/wiki/OsmoDevCall
Looking forward to meeting you soon!
Best regards,
Harald
[*] this is how we started to call the "unstructured" part of osmocom
developer conferences in the past, basically where anyone can talk about
anything, no formal schedule or structure.
--
- Harald Welte <laforge(a)osmocom.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
Hi!
== Welcome / Mailing List / Forum ==
so far most of the OCTOI (Osmocom Community TDMoIP) related communication
has been happening on the #retronetworking IRC channel on libera.chat.
That's nice, but it is also quite "volatile" as not everyone is there all the
time, and we have no public searchable archive of it, etc.
So I would like to start the discussions here on the mailing list. If you guys
prefer, we can also switch to the web-based forums I crated in redmine at
https://osmocom.org/projects/octoi/boards
I personally am more a mailing list person, but I'm happy to use whatever is
most accepted.
I'd like to share some general status update on OCTOI...
== OCTOI phase one ==
The central OCTOI hub has been a machine called 'divo' which is located in
the basement of my Berlin home. IT has a Digium TE820 card for 8 physical
E1 circuits.
* one to my own Auerswald COMmander basic2 PBX connecting my phones/modems
* one to my Portmaster3 providing a variety of modem/isdn dial-up services
* one to an icE1usb connecting manawyrm
* one to an icE1usb connecting gruetzkopf
* one to an icE1usb connecting roox
* one to an icE1usb connecting cquirin
The central 'switch' is at least currently a yate installation on divo.
This has been operational for at least a few weeks, and we've been testing
voice calls, ISDN video calls, modem calls and ISDN dialup. For analog modem
the most critical part was the phase errors introduced by lack of recovery
from packet re-ordering in earlier versions of the OCTOI support in osmo-e1d.
== OCTOI phase 1b: RIFO ==
More recently, we upgraded that software to include the "RIFO" (random
in, first out) to properly deal with packet re-ordering on the small
scale we're seeing it in those links. This has reportedly increased
the quality and reliability of modem calls.
The one difficult part of those connections above is that they all need
one physical E1 circuit at my end, together with a physical icE1usb and
the related host computer with sufficient full-speed USB bandwidth to drive it.
== OCTOI phase 2: trunkdev ==
This has led to the development of dahdi-trunkdev. This is a virtual
DAHDI driver. It plugs into DAHDI like any other driver, offering the
usual per-timeslot "channel" devices. But instead of driving some real
E1 hardware, it simply multiplexes/demultiplexes the 32 timeslots
into E1 frames which are then accessible to a Linux userspace program
via new 'trunkdev' character devices. Code can be found at
https://gitea.osmocom.org/retronetworking/dahdi-linux/src/branch/laforge/tr…
This now meant that osmo-e1d could be modified to not talk to a physical
icE1usb device, but instead to this DAHDI trunkdev. Code is at
https://gitea.osmocom.org/retronetworking/osmo-e1d/src/branch/laforge/trunk…
The combination of dahdi-trunkdev and osmo-e1d trunkdev support now
allows the provisioning of purely virtual trunks: No more need for a
physical E1 cirtuit or osmo-e1d on my end, allowing easy scale-out to
more users.
I've only tested this code in DAHDI-to-DAHDI situations looking as
follows:
Side A:
e1-prbs-test - DAHDI - trunkdev - osmo-e1d <-- OCTOI
identical Side B:
e1-prbs-test - DAHDI - trunkdev - osmo-e1d <-- OCTOI
What we need in the real world is the following setup
Side A (hub):
e1-prbs-test - DAHDI - trunkdev - osmo-e1d <-- OCTOI
Side B (user):
PBX/... - icE1usb - osmo-e1d <-- OCTOI
I didn't test/verify this setup yet at my end in the lab.
However, we have two new users who are connected this way now:
* drdeke
* tmwapl
== divo machine death ==
Two days ago now the 'divo' machine on my side died. I narrowed it down
to either the CPU or the mainboard. As I don't have matching spare
parts for those, I first tried to migrate to another physical machine I
had sitting on a shelf, but that exhibited some other problem. So now
'divo' is a kvm virtual machine running on an EPYC server, using SRV-IO
to map USB host controllers (for icE1usb), TE820 and even the NIC into
the guest OS. It uses the original SSD from the old divo machine, so no
data was lost and the existing setup is matched 1:1
Unless we see problems with this approach (I don't expect any), this
VM based setup will likely remain until the data center migration (see
below).
== TODO / What needs to be done now ==
Right now the most critical parts to do are:
1) to test the reliability of the network in general (particularly with the RIFO).
2) to verify that trunkdev works as well as the physical setup
It is important that we get more "measurable" results than "I created a
modem call and it was stable for 30mins".
Ideas on that:
1) disconnect some of the user trunks from the yate/ISDN setup and run them with
e1-prbs-test at both ends to get some idea on the bit error rate over
at least 24 hours
2) most urgently, add more statistics / counters to osmo-e1d and set up
some kind of aggregaion/graphing for those. In the libosmo*
universe, we have infrastructure for stat_items and rate_counters,
as well as a statsd reporter that can expose those values. So this
task boils down to
a) identifying the metrics that we should expose and implement them.
b) configure the statsd exporter to actually expose them
c) some setup for collecting those values and plotting/analyzing them.
Help is needed wit all of those tasks. For '1' I can only run one side
of the link, of course.
For '2', unless somebody throws themselves at it, I'm happy to do 'a' as
I'm most familiar with the code. 'b' is a no-brainer. But for 'c' I
would really appreciate if somebody else could take this over, as I'm
not familiar with grafana/prometheus or whatever people want to use for
that.
== Later: Migration to data center co-location ==
Once that is clear, we can add more users, and can work towards
migrating the entire setup away from my basement and into a co-located
date center. noris.net has kindly offered to host the setup. They are
a south German data center operator who originally started as a small ISP,
and for whom the 'u-isdn' Linux ISDN stack was originally created. The
founders are still involved, so there certainly is some good will to
help along our retronetworking efforts.
The physical machine will likely be sponsored by my company sysmocom,
unless some unforeseen other option turns up.
There's no clear schedule (and also no rush) for this migration, but I
want to do this in the next few months unless we see serious stability
issues that need to be resolved first.
Happy hacking,
Harald
--
- Harald Welte <laforge(a)gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
Dear List,
this is the first post to this list, just to get the discussion started and
to let you know that there has been good progress in recent weeks on the
Osmocom Community TDMoIP network. We have a prototype network
as can be seen in the diagram at https://osmocom.org/projects/octoi/wiki/Community_TDMSS7_Network#Currnet-Ne… - primary users so far are manawyrm in Kiel/Germany and myself
in Berlin/Germany
Via the Portmaster3 one can dial into a variety of BBSs (the portmaster forwards
via Telnet based on the called number), see https://www.ckts.info/directory/europe/continent/
(search for Germany / 30 / 12343xxx) for the current listing.
ISDN data calls are quite stable, even through the remote TDMoIP.
For analog modem connections (at least V.9x) via TDMoIP, we need to
resolve the proper handling of packet re-ordering
(https://osmocom.org/issues/5432) as we see a few of them and they tend
to be rather destructive.
We definitely need a lot more testing and the experimental osmo-e1d
based code for the protocol needs a lot of improvements for wider
deployment, but things are coming together rather nicely.
In case anyone has ISDN PRI equipment and wants to connect, feel free to
reach out.
Regards,
Harald
p.s.: #retronetworking on libera.chat is where most of the communication
related to this project is happening.
--
- Harald Welte <laforge(a)gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
